with taxing millionaires. >> absolute liver -- oh, i'm not, and we have brought you over. this is wonderful. >> remember, al, the important thing here is nobody on the democrat ecside, including president obama said that at this time asking them to raise tax rates. we're asking to close loopholes, cut off these tax expend stirs. if they could do that, shame on them. >> that's right. let me ask you both a prediction. will we have a deal? >> i don't think so. >> i agree with the governor, i don't think we will. i think if we have anything, governor, i'd like your thoughts on this, it will be a baby thing that won't amount to much and will not begin to solve the problem. >> yeah, i think michael is right about that, reverend sharpton, just like what happened when the budget deadline was there for last year's budget, it was a deal that really didn't do a thing. it was a face-saving device. we'll fight this out -- >> well, we'll see what happens.